Open Friday: Do Black People Hate White People or Hate The Institution?

In the last few weeks the racial tension in this country has come to a crux. There has ALWAYS been subtle racial tension running rampant. Just like the movie “Do The Right Thing,” one incident can bring to light underlying racial prejudice and epithet. I’ve received my own personal attention with this blog and my opinion on the Trayvon Martin situation. I’ve had so many people write or talk to me some with constructive conversation and some that just want to throw out red herrings to get under my skin. This week’s Open Friday Letter is one that was a result of the controversy and statements from over the last few weeks.

Dear Darryl,

You should put up a blog on whether black people, especially the socially conscious & active, in this day and age, hate white people or the institution and media that portrays blacks in a certain light…

Because as a white person, its hard to know whether the same black people I feel comfortable with and communicate on a regular basis feel different about me when they go home or change environments where I’m not around…. It’s confusing to us. We don’t know if that same person who happens to be black that we get along with so well is the same person who online, may seem to have feelings of dismay or hatred of ‘white’ people. Is that like me and my brother or sister? Who exactly is that audience black people happen to be ranting against when they call out a ‘white’ person? Surely, it can’t be everyday people like myself? If it was, then those feelings would have to be towards biological and racial discretion rather than a sociological one, where society never shaped their opinions on whites, rather they have a problem with that skin color and maybe certain ways white people act collectively……

Sincerely,

Slightly confused white person

P.S. This same idea should be asked to white people who have the same feelings towards blacks as well
Great question – I appreciate you coming through to my blog. First thing – this question is very complex and can’t be contained or explained in one blog post. But, I’ll try my best! Second, I’d like to give a disclosure –  I don’t believe that black people think as a monolith. From Louis Farrakhan to Clarence Thomas, everyone has different ideologies and thoughts. Though I may not agree the ideals of Alan Keyes (in that I feel his notions are demonstrative to blackness) I can’t refute him being black. So, my response is just my opinion and shouldn’t be attributed to ALL black people feeling a certain way about your question.

So let’s dig into my answer! You’re wonder if black people hate white people. I’d say it isn’t a hate of white people in terms of individuals, it’s a hate in the systems that are intact . I don’t think that a black person walks out of their home saying “I’m going to hate some white people today.” Even as a people, we all have different voices. It’s called, by W.E.B Dubois, the double consciousness (or double veil). Black people, in a general, are always looked at through the eyes of others.

Chris Rock said it best: “For Black people, America is like the uncle that put you through college… but molested you.”

Get rid of the stereotypical “the white man is holding us down” idea – the majority of the socially conscious people you are talking about don’t believe in it. As you questioned in your letter – is it the media and machine? I would say most definitely. You asked, in the P.S. section, that white people should be given the same question. I’d say a lot of black people feel that way when they read comments on posts, articles, TV, etc.

It’s a big cluster F*** of frustration by much of White America. Many of them are feel that they’re “losing” America because the complexion (both literally and figuratively) is changing. On the other end, many African-American’s feel they’re being even more disenfranchised and dismissed in the media then ever before. I seriously believe that most people in this country have never sat down and had a discussion about race. People just want to forget the past  and move on. That very reason, in my opinion, is exactly why you’tr seeing this high racial tension. For example:  if you and your wife are having marital problems, and one of you doesn’t want to talk and discuss the past, how can move forward in the relationship? I totally understand that a lot of people feel like this discussion has already happen…but have we actually delved into the topic…or just said something about it in passing?

Could some of those black people just be bigots? Sure. Of course.  But, I would go out on a limb and say the socially conscious people you’ve mentioned understand the difference between the system… and individuals.  I would also venture to say that they understand that every person is self-accountable for who they are and what they become. Your black friends and associates may feel a certain way about white society but it isn’t a personal indictment to you and who you are as a person. We’re all people at the end of the day. We all root for the same teams, bleed the same blood, and have many of the same common experiences. It’s when these conversations happen that walls break down.

This was a very complexion question, but I hope I was able to shed a little light for you.

Chime in! What do you think?

Write in with any question for Open Friday at fromashy2classy@gmail.com

 

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15 responses to “Open Friday: Do Black People Hate White People or Hate The Institution?

  1. Great job! But like you said it is hard to explain the complexity of the black experience or notions on it in a short blog post. Its so much deeper like you said because we have so many ways of thinking and experiences that black folk have. But I think you did a good job giving the reader a little of an appetizer for his question

  2. Thanks for writing this post. It’s hard to speak for a whole race, white or black. Great job.

    While haters are getting more aggressive, I’m not sure it’s widespread fear of evolutionary change. Humanity’s greatest achievements are down to millions of years of successful evolution. We’re hardwired to unconsciously move towards higher evolution. And evolution is usually in favor of mixed genes which will successfully adapt to life. Evolution will do it’s thing regardless of hate. That a given.

    In the meantime, everything is political. “It’s a setup”. And the two sides are cleverly kept apart. Blacks are exhausted fighting off constant, systematic oppression, ie http://www.thenation.com/article/167085/trayvon-martin-what-its-be-problem . Whites are blind drunk from drinking a constant koolaid-cocktail of Disneyworld propaganda which strips them of their empathy and political awareness. Hating and non-hating whites have lost the ability to see or name ‘oppression’, nevermind work to fix it.

    Who wins? The exhaustion and intoxication makes us all easy to ‘manage’. Established political powers carry on.

  3. As a white womn these are thinks I have learned from having real conversations with all kinds of black people. I was once like the reader until I sat down and really had inimate conversations with black friends to really see their perspective instead of believing they have my thoughts or a group black think.

    Good Job though! Its hard to convey the notions of race in a short amount of words and I commend the writer of the letter for reaching out to try and get some kind of understanding.

  4. Great post, great topic. Ignorance breeds hate, and ignorance can account for most of the vitriolic speech, especially on the internet! No, generally, Black people do not hate White people but we hate a system that perpetuates inequality and often favors White people. A lot of White people are accused of being racist when they haven’t done anything except be born White. The biggest problem is that in school the American history we are taught is laughable! There is usually a short paragraph about slavery and then one about MLK a few chapters later! The true history of Black people in America involves the truth about the trauma of slavery throughout generations, the virtual destruction of the Black family, the EXCLUSION of Blacks from avenues to create wealth for decades (some that are still in existence), the prison industrial complex aka The New Jim Crow, the FBI’s COINTELPRO, the flooding of urban areas with heroine and then crack, and the neglected failed public school system that graduates people from high school even though they can’t even read at an 8th grade level. People are not taught the existence and prevalence of White Privilege: what it is, what it means, no it’s not a bad word. White privilege is basically the fact that White people didn’t have to deal with the above societal ills and weren’t affected by them in the same way. So basically a LOT of ignorance + not really anyone’s fault, per se = no one knows WHAT to say or who to blame and they just end up voicing frustrations in a way that doesn’t help anyone and perpetuates ill feelings amongst Whites. This is why it is so important to talk about “racism” because it can be explained and the real racists can be exposed but first there must be a lot of listening and understanding (which are not human strong points).

  5. Sigh. This conversation makes me sleepy, not because it’s not relevant or important or needed. It’s all three of those things. But it’s a conversation we keep having w/o any real viable solutions, change etc. I think that because there’s extreme sensitivity and emotion attached to it, it’s difficult to moderate and push forward. If that makes any sense.

    That said… Black America’s frustration with White America (as in the institution) is well founded of course.

    However I don’t know that Black America always articulates it the right way. Of course I’m speaking VERY generally.

    For example, on Twitter I see it all the time. A Black person will begin some derogatory comment with “White people always…” But what I think that person really means is “A specific White person I just encountered…”

    Likewise George Zimmerman does not represent his entire race, but he does represent a significant portion of the American population that stereotypes African-Americans.

    I think that Black people are reacting personally to the case b/c we’ve all been Trayvon at some point in our lives. The tricky thing is to figure out how to react without displaying racist behaviors ourselves and to separate the White person who is without prejudice from those who eat, breathe and live discriminatory lives. It’s hard.

  6. Black people have a right to hate some individual White people who have done them wrong in ways that will perpetually impact them. They also have a right to hate the system of power in place that allows White people to dominate meaningful economic, professional, personal, academic, and social dimensions of their lives. However, one has to understand that simply hating individual White people and the system of power in place that empowers them is not enough. There must collective efforts to create a fundamental change in the system that manufactures inequality and injustice for Black, brown, yellow, and red people in America. We must work for a transformative power shift in the extant system of power.

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  9. No bullshit, I honestly relate to people as human beings most of the time. I find certain things universally attractive ; free thinking , humor, sarcasm, wittiness,compassion, principled people, etc. and these traits are desirable regardless of race, religion, nationality and/or sexual orientation.

    However, I’d be lying if I didn’t say that white privilege doesn’t bother me or the fact that some people who are extended this privilege won’t acknowledge that it exists. It does bother me that people tend to over simplify slavery which lasted 246 years (1619 -1865); and the emotional, psychological, social, economic, mental, …….reprecussions that still persist today. Do I think of these things when having a casual conversation with someone of a different race? No.

    If situations occur such as; unjustified mistrust, having to instinctively alter my behavior to make someone else comfortable based on racial sterotypes, dealing with prejudgement, having to work harder, etc. I am a bit annoyed but it isn’t directed at a person more the institution.

    • I only wish you could teach in Paterson, NJ, or Newark. So many young minds, so ignorant. Adults who cannot read, mangle the language and make up stories. Thank you.

  10. culture, ask the black woman in Paterson who was raped, sold by her father to feed his drug habit, has 8 children why her first son was nearly strangled, by his own mother, what his ideas are on black culture. She is going to collage thanks to welfare and the state of NJ. I went to a group with her, surprise!

  11. My ancestors were ensalved by the British, had their land stolen, their women raped. Why is it that hundreds of years later I don’t give a shit? Whites voted about the same percentage for Obama that they did for Clinton, Blacks voted nearly 100% for Obama, fact is blacks obsess over color a lot more than white people.

  12. As a white guy I have to acknowledge that most white Americans are largely ignorant about things pertaining to race. Through formal education we get the idea that racism was something that happened in the past. We aren’t really aware of the pain and disenfranchisement that is felt in the black community until we see it with our own eyes. For me it was meeting an elderly, hardworking, intelligent black man who couldn’t read. I couldn’t figure out why he couldn’t read. He was a mechanic, and he was very sharp. I came to find out that through Jim Crow, there was not a school he could go to. It really hit me how racism still affects people today, when I saw how this impacted him, and his family. Here is grandpa, a great guy, who was deprived of something so basic. It really hit me, I felt sad for him. It really wasn’t fair. And sure, I get why black people are angry, and why they hate the white institution. From there I came to understand how many blacks feel that their culture has been stripped away, how things that may be relevant to them are disregarded in main culture.

    I also see the white perspective. I have friends who have had negative experiences with blacks, and, while not being racist per say, don’t trust or really care for blacks because of these experiences. I don’t know what the answer is, but ignorance is the source of the problem.

    I think as you pointed out, the biggest mistake is that things were swept under the rug a long time ago. White America hasn’t really acknowledged black suffering, and as a result many now aren’t aware it exists. I don’t think there will be a societal fix any time soon, but what I do recognize is that everyday I myself become more open minded, and less ignorant. I think as human beings in the adult world we owe it to each other and our kids to make amends. Easier for some than others. I always show older black people an extra amount of courtesy and respect. It saddens me to know that they grew up as second class citizens. Anyway, I like your blog and appreciate the open dialogue. Cheers.

  13. I’m black. I don’t hate white people but I hate racism, prejudices that some of them hold, and aren’t even aware of. I hate the social system that causes black people to be seen in a negative light and in accordance with bad stereotypes and prejudices.

    Darren A.
    London, England.

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